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Woodburning stoves

Posted: 01 Jan 2021 15:16
by jimny1
Just when i was going to look into having one installed :roll:
I wonder if this applies to pellet stoves also ?

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/avoid-using- ... 13208.html

Re: Woodburning stoves

Posted: 02 Jan 2021 10:22
by Bee
It is now recognised that they are just as polluting as the wood stove. The most pollution is caused when starting up and refuelling any form of wood, coal or peat stove or open fire. People are encouraged not to buy them but what's the alternative? Retrofitting insulation in older homes is very costly and low cost loans are not much good if people can't afford them. Electricity is also very expensive. Gas heaters are not an alternative for a lot of people as they are unable to tolerate the fumes. Grants which meet 90% or even 100% of the retrofitting costs to bring homes up to A2 BER ratings looks like the better way to go.

Bee

Re: Woodburning stoves

Posted: 02 Jan 2021 11:50
by freddo
That information has been known for over 20 years so why has something not been done about it
All fuels starts life as trees that decay and is gradually forced down underground only for mankind to dig it all up again

Re: Woodburning stoves

Posted: 02 Jan 2021 12:36
by jimny1
I can understand that the pollution that they give off goes into the exterior atmosphere but aren't sealed wood burners with flues built so that they dont pollute inside the house, don't some have extractor fans built in for this purpose ? Besides all forms of heating give off some negative form of pollution
And as fred said why have they been allowed to be produced for so long and what will happen to the companies that produce them , i did read somewhere a while back that if you already have one you are exempt from new regulations, but all new are subject to them
Found this on google but not sure which countries it refers to

New laws on log burners
A: The government has made it clear that it's not banning wood-burning stoves. There will, however, be new legislations about the type of fuel you can use in your wood burner. From May 2021, the sale of wet wood and coal will be gradually phased out.Sep 3, 2020

Re: Woodburning stoves

Posted: 02 Jan 2021 14:36
by elcarretero
I cannot disagree with the information about pollution caused by burning wood, but we have one here in Spain that we use between late November and mid March.
A few discussion points
. Burning wood is carbon neutral, it has been growing for several years all the time extracting carbon dioxide from the atmosphere
. Using a log burning stove with completely dry wood only produces smoke when it is first lit, after that you get complete burning of the wood, leaving only fine ash
. In Spain it is a useful way to dispose of wood trimming and pruning. Olive, citrus, almond, oak etc. are all grown in abundance and need maintenance, if the farmers could not sell it, they would have a reduced income and would probably burn it in the fields, causing more pollution than using wood burning stoves.
. Some people cook with their log burners and so reduce the use of other forms of energy.
. It is difficult for most people to store wood until it is completely dry, or even store it at all, but if they could there would be less pollution as burning wet or damp wood makes a lot of soot and smoke due to uncomplete burning.
. For us it is a very pleasant form of heating with little noise, we are lucky to be able to store at least a year's worth of wood, which we buy in one go and store it throughout the spring and summer.

Re: Woodburning stoves

Posted: 02 Jan 2021 14:44
by Bee
What do they mean by "wet wood" I have this vision of soggy wet timber which surely nobody would put on a fire? Most people lay up timber for a year before burning it.

Bee

Re: Woodburning stoves

Posted: 02 Jan 2021 15:17
by freddo
It takes more than a year to dry wood out completly Oak and Almond needs to be air dried for at least 18 months

The new Law which comes into effect this February is for the UK
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... XFEkL0c0wa

Re: Woodburning stoves

Posted: 02 Jan 2021 16:11
by jimny1
The last part of the huffingtonpost article mentions the type of burners i was referring to

The key impact on existing stove owners will be on fuels like wet wood and traditional house coal, which is being phased out. Those who already own a wood-burning stove are encouraged to make it more eco-friendly, by installing a electrostatic filter, which can cut emissions of particles, burn dry wood, and regularly sweep chimneys

Re: Woodburning stoves

Posted: 03 Jan 2021 10:51
by freddo
If you want good advice on woodburners see Warran here http://budgetburners.com/

Re: Woodburning stoves

Posted: 03 Jan 2021 12:56
by jimny1
Cheers freddo