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Not alot of warning for this to come in at midnight tonight.

No mention of this being UK wide, just England and Scotland at the moment.

I guess this was inevitable given the considerable increase in cases throughout Spain in recent days.

On a local level in the past week, Torrevieja had 20 confirmed cases with a further 4 expected to be confirmed and 3 people hospitalised in a non-serious condition.

Wales and Northern Ireland have now confirmed that they too will impose 14 day quarantine.

Edit: Government travel advice https://www.gov.uk/government/news/spai ... ption-list

Yes, it was inevitable ..

When people return to the UK do others in the same household in UK who never travelled have to isolate as well?

Retire1day wrote: 25 Jul 2020 22:33 When people return to the UK do others in the same household in UK who never travelled have to isolate as well?

Only those that have travelled according to these UK Government guidelines.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -to-the-uk

Thanks Carl, relief. My wife is on the way over there now, on the plane as I type. I wonder if a lot of people are going to cancel their flights now. I am going to get on my flight in August but some companies might not want their employees going. Does soumd like a knee jerk reaction, at the maximum it should only have been for the North of Spain.

Carl wrote: 25 Jul 2020 23:24

Retire1day wrote: 25 Jul 2020 22:33 When people return to the UK do others in the same household in UK who never travelled have to isolate as well?

Only those that have travelled according to these UK Government guidelines.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -to-the-uk

I understood that Self Isolation means on your own with no contact with any other person in a room that only the person concerned in it
How to self-isolate in your accommodation
You should self-isolate in one place for the full 14 days, where you can have food and other necessities delivered, and stay away from others. You must self-isolate at the address you provided on the public health passenger locator form.

This can include:

your own home
staying with friends or family
a hotel or other temporary accommodation
You should not have visitors, including friends and family, unless they are providing essential care. The only friends and family who you can have contact with are those who travelled with you or people who you are staying with.

You cannot go out to work or school or visit public areas. You should not go shopping. If you require help buying groceries, other shopping or picking up medication, you should ask friends or relatives or order a delivery.

In England, you must only exercise within your home or garden. You cannot leave your home to walk your dog. You will need to ask friends or relatives to help you with this.

NHS Volunteer Responders are also available if you need help collecting shopping, medication or would like a telephone ‘check-in and chat’. Call 0808 196 3646 (8am to 8pm) to arrange volunteer support. You can arrange one-off support, or schedule more regular help whilst you are self-isolating.

In England, you can only leave your accommodation in limited circumstances. These include where:

you need urgent medical assistance (or where your doctor has advised you to get medical assistance)
you need access to basic necessities like food and medicines, but only in exceptional circumstances such as where you cannot arrange for these to be delivered
you need to access critical public services such as social services and victim support services, but only in exceptional circumstances
you need to go to the funeral of a family member of someone you live with
you need to visit a dying or critically ill family member or someone you live with
you need to fulfil a legal obligation such as participate in legal proceedings
there’s an emergency
You are not allowed to change the place where you are self-isolating except in very limited circumstances, including where:

a legal obligation requires you to change address, such as where you are a child whose parents live separately, and you need to move between homes as part of a shared custody agreement
it is necessary for you to stay overnight at accommodation before travelling to the place where you will be self-isolating for the remainder of the 14 days
there’s an emergency
If this happens, you should provide full details of each address where you will self-isolate on the public health passenger locator form. If, in exceptional circumstances, you cannot remain where you are staying, you must update the form as soon as possible.

Support to help you self-isolate in your own accommodation
The people you’re staying with do not need to self-isolate, unless they travelled with you or you develop symptoms of coronavirus.

If you cannot safely self-isolate for 14 days, you should tell Border Force Officers when you pass through UK border controls. They will provide you with details of a booking service which you can use to obtain accommodation and self-isolate in at your own expense. Staying at home may be difficult, frustrating or lonely, but there are things that you can do to help make it easier.

NHS Volunteer Responders are also on hand to have a friendly chat. If you would like a telephone ‘check in and chat’ please call 0808 196 3646 (8am to 8pm) to arrange volunteer support.

Within your accommodation
The people you’re staying with do not need to stay at home, unless they travelled with you.

If you’re staying in a hotel or guest house, you must stay away from others who didn’t travel with you, so it’s important that you don’t use shared areas such as bars, restaurants, health clubs and sports facilities. Stay 2 metres apart from other people staying there at all times.

It’s important to avoid as much contact with other people as possible in your home in order to reduce the risk of transmitting coronavirus. You should stay in a well-ventilated room with a window to the outside that can be opened, separate from other people in your home.

I was going to book a flight to Germany this morning for August the 17th .
Now , I don't know what to do , with this latest news coming in .
I'm almost certain Germany will follow suit with this quarantine .
Not worth going there for 3 weeks , if I have to isolate for the first
2 weeks.
What a bummer !

Retire1day wrote: 26 Jul 2020 08:55 Thanks Carl, relief. My wife is on the way over there now, on the plane as I type. I wonder if a lot of people are going to cancel their flights now. I am going to get on my flight in August but some companies might not want their employees going. Does soumd like a knee jerk reaction, at the maximum it should only have been for the North of Spain.

I would imagine the cancellation rate will be high for those that have booked to travel to the Spanish mainland as UK Government travel advice is for essential travel only, therefore the airlines/travel agents are obliged to issue refunds.

For the Spanish islands, I think travellers are in a very difficult and different position. The travel advice issued at the same time as that for the Spanish mainland was that it was safe to travel to the islands, therefore there is no obligation for airlines/travel agents to issue refunds, and you are still expected to quarantine on return to the UK.

I know Easyjet and BA both issued statements last night following the new travel advice and confirmed that they would continue flying to Spain in the coming days, but I would imagine that can only be sustained if there are passengers willing to travel.

freddo wrote: 26 Jul 2020 09:01

Carl wrote: 25 Jul 2020 23:24

Retire1day wrote: 25 Jul 2020 22:33 When people return to the UK do others in the same household in UK who never travelled have to isolate as well?

Only those that have travelled according to these UK Government guidelines.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -to-the-uk

I understood that Self Isolation means on your own with no contact with any other person in a room that only the person concerned in it
How to self-isolate in your accommodation
You should self-isolate in one place for the full 14 days, where you can have food and other necessities delivered, and stay away from others. You must self-isolate at the address you provided on the public health passenger locator form.

This can include:

your own home
staying with friends or family
a hotel or other temporary accommodation
You should not have visitors, including friends and family, unless they are providing essential care. The only friends and family who you can have contact with are those who travelled with you or people who you are staying with.

You cannot go out to work or school or visit public areas. You should not go shopping. If you require help buying groceries, other shopping or picking up medication, you should ask friends or relatives or order a delivery.

In England, you must only exercise within your home or garden. You cannot leave your home to walk your dog. You will need to ask friends or relatives to help you with this.

NHS Volunteer Responders are also available if you need help collecting shopping, medication or would like a telephone ‘check-in and chat’. Call 0808 196 3646 (8am to 8pm) to arrange volunteer support. You can arrange one-off support, or schedule more regular help whilst you are self-isolating.

In England, you can only leave your accommodation in limited circumstances. These include where:

you need urgent medical assistance (or where your doctor has advised you to get medical assistance)
you need access to basic necessities like food and medicines, but only in exceptional circumstances such as where you cannot arrange for these to be delivered
you need to access critical public services such as social services and victim support services, but only in exceptional circumstances
you need to go to the funeral of a family member of someone you live with
you need to visit a dying or critically ill family member or someone you live with
you need to fulfil a legal obligation such as participate in legal proceedings
there’s an emergency
You are not allowed to change the place where you are self-isolating except in very limited circumstances, including where:

a legal obligation requires you to change address, such as where you are a child whose parents live separately, and you need to move between homes as part of a shared custody agreement
it is necessary for you to stay overnight at accommodation before travelling to the place where you will be self-isolating for the remainder of the 14 days
there’s an emergency
If this happens, you should provide full details of each address where you will self-isolate on the public health passenger locator form. If, in exceptional circumstances, you cannot remain where you are staying, you must update the form as soon as possible.

Support to help you self-isolate in your own accommodation
The people you’re staying with do not need to self-isolate, unless they travelled with you or you develop symptoms of coronavirus.

If you cannot safely self-isolate for 14 days, you should tell Border Force Officers when you pass through UK border controls. They will provide you with details of a booking service which you can use to obtain accommodation and self-isolate in at your own expense. Staying at home may be difficult, frustrating or lonely, but there are things that you can do to help make it easier.

NHS Volunteer Responders are also on hand to have a friendly chat. If you would like a telephone ‘check in and chat’ please call 0808 196 3646 (8am to 8pm) to arrange volunteer support.

Within your accommodation
The people you’re staying with do not need to stay at home, unless they travelled with you.

If you’re staying in a hotel or guest house, you must stay away from others who didn’t travel with you, so it’s important that you don’t use shared areas such as bars, restaurants, health clubs and sports facilities. Stay 2 metres apart from other people staying there at all times.

It’s important to avoid as much contact with other people as possible in your home in order to reduce the risk of transmitting coronavirus. You should stay in a well-ventilated room with a window to the outside that can be opened, separate from other people in your home.

You are totally correct freddo about self isolation. I was responding to the question about whether those in the same household who have not travelled need to isolate, and you have covered that in the paragraph above.