Capital Punishment

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crummy
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Re: Capital Punishment

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No one seems to mention the cost of paying compensation to the family of a wrongly executed person. That beside the horror to family and friends.

And I know DNA etc is good, but not infallible. Mistakes will always be made somewhere along the line.

Lock them up forever... at least you don't kill innocent people.

And many people look down on the Taliban when they hack the head off guilty (to them) people or stone them to death.. Do we really want to like them?
We should be more civilized.

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Re: Capital Punishment

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crummy wrote: 01 Mar 2023 16:48 Lock them up forever... at least you don't kill innocent people.
If that was the norm, then I'm sure that the vast majority of pro - Captital Punishment would change their opinion, I certainly would.
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Re: Capital Punishment

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Post: # 37302Post paulja »

crummy wrote: 01 Mar 2023 16:48 No one seems to mention the cost of paying compensation to the family of a wrongly executed person. That beside the horror to family and friends.

And I know DNA etc is good, but not infallible. Mistakes will always be made somewhere along the line.

Lock them up forever... at least you don't kill innocent people.

And many people look down on the Taliban when they hack the head off guilty (to them) people or stone them to death.. Do we really want to like them?
We should be more civilized.

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I would still like to know if you agree with drones taking out terrorists (Jihadi John) as it has been done without a trial.
Lee Rigbys killers, no chance they are innocent and has a trial.
crummy
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Re: Capital Punishment

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paulja wrote: 01 Mar 2023 19:40
crummy wrote: 01 Mar 2023 16:48 No one seems to mention the cost of paying compensation to the family of a wrongly executed person. That beside the horror to family and friends.

And I know DNA etc is good, but not infallible. Mistakes will always be made somewhere along the line.

Lock them up forever... at least you don't kill innocent people.

And many people look down on the Taliban when they hack the head off guilty (to them) people or stone them to death.. Do we really want to like them?
We should be more civilized.

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I would still like to know if you agree with drones taking out terrorists (Jihadi John) as it has been done without a trial.
Lee Rigbys killers, no chance they are innocent and has a trial.
War is different with different rules..

With a Lee Rigby type scenario I would suggest the murderer would prefer to be a martyr anyway and go to his 76 virgins...

There should be no death penalty or the lawyers would have a field day splitting hairs on who should or shouldn't de executed. I would suggest for Lee Rigby"s murderer he should he mucking out pig pens for the rest of his life.
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Re: Capital Punishment

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A guy who worked for us had his granddaughter murdered,dismembered and put into a commercial dustbin,the guy who was found guilty of the murder had spent almost 50 years in prison for a previous murder and he was secretly allowed back into the community,which says to me that these people cannot be rehabilitated and murderers should be put away for life,if evidence is later produced to prove their innocence then so be it,if they are executed to serve the blood lust of those who want revenge (which they will argue is justice)...what happens then.....whoops.
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Re: Capital Punishment

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crummy wrote: 01 Mar 2023 16:48 No one seems to mention the cost of paying compensation to the family of a wrongly executed person. That beside the horror to family and friends.
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I wonder how much compensation was paid to the 129 innocent peoples families for the horror suffered who were murdered by 129 criminals jailed for murder and then released.and have joined the ranks of 'double-lifers' in just 10 years.

I bet there is less innocent murderers jailed in the last 10 years than the 129 innocent people who lost after murderers were released. Execute them and 129 innocent people would still be alive.

Justice my arse.

Can't agree with you on this one crummy.
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Re: Capital Punishment

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paulja wrote: 01 Mar 2023 22:35
crummy wrote: 01 Mar 2023 16:48 No one seems to mention the cost of paying compensation to the family of a wrongly executed person. That beside the horror to family and friends.
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I wonder how much compensation was paid to the 129 innocent peoples families for the horror suffered who were murdered by 129 criminals jailed for murder and then released.and have joined the ranks of 'double-lifers' in just 10 years.

I bet there is less innocent murderers jailed in the last 10 years than the 129 innocent people who lost after murderers were released. Execute them and 129 innocent people would still be alive.

Justice my arse.

Can't agree with you on this one crummy.
If life meant life they would still be alive.....what's the point of keeping people alive on death row for years whilst appeal after appeal is played out......do we execute women?.....people with mental issues?.....who decides.....thankfully it will never return.....barbarism should not be met with state barbarism.....life should mean life IMHO.
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crummy
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Re: Capital Punishment

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paulja wrote: 01 Mar 2023 22:35
crummy wrote: 01 Mar 2023 16:48 No one seems to mention the cost of paying compensation to the family of a wrongly executed person. That beside the horror to family and friends.
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I wonder how much compensation was paid to the 129 innocent peoples families for the horror suffered who were murdered by 129 criminals jailed for murder and then released.and have joined the ranks of 'double-lifers' in just 10 years.

I bet there is less innocent murderers jailed in the last 10 years than the 129 innocent people who lost after murderers were released. Execute them and 129 innocent people would still be alive.

Justice my arse.

Can't agree with you on this one crummy.
If life meant life as I keep saying then no one would be released to kill again...

And no worries, differing view are healthy and I am happy that we can discuss such topics with anger and abuse.

I just think we ( the west) should be better by now than the Taliban.
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Re: Capital Punishment

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Post: # 37310Post Vino »

Eden wrote: 27 Feb 2023 15:13 Maybe there should be a new charge of Murder with intent with definitive evidence, (eg caught on camera) thus removing the "reasonable doubt", it being replaced with "No doubt", Lethal injection for these in my opinion.
EXACTLY . A charge of Murder "without doubt"
Like Lee Rigby's killers
and Micheal Ryan. ( if he hadn't shot himself.)he killed 16 people.
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Re: Capital Punishment

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Post: # 37313Post paulja »

crummy wrote: 02 Mar 2023 05:45
If life meant life as I keep saying then no one would be released to kill again...
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But it doesn't.

And I think removing Ian Huntley from taking any more breaths is a favour to society not barbarism.

I suspect Jessica and Holly's family think it is barbarism that a man who did what he did to their children is kept warm, three meals a day etc and still lives.

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